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While I was still playing on LJ, some things happened in RP that I thought were kinda foul. Things that left me wondering who my friends were, if I had to watch my back, yadda, whatever.
Once I'd beenforcibly moved IJ, I'd decided two things and two things for sure:
1) I wasn't going to get involved in wank
2) I wasn't going to 'beg' for it anymore
I'd play with people who clearly wanted to play with me and avoid those that didn't. There are forty gazillion games on IJ and if one didn't want me, well, the other 39,999,999,999,999--- still presented an opportunity. I didn't have to put up with people who talked shit about me, my friends, whatever. There are rules on my user info for a reason.
Way back when, I had a fight with someone. She let someone say something nasty about me and she didn't defend me when I wasn't there to defend myself. This, to me, was just as bad as saying those things herself. Because if you don't agree with what someone is saying about your friends, you need to stand up for them. She and I had this MASSIVE falling out and a week later, talked it out and moved on. Three and a half years later, she and I are amazing friends.
Two days ago, another friend said something to me: You're one of the few people I can argue with who sticks around after. That's rare online, I've found.
She's right. I've fought with a great many people. I've also remained friends with a good many of them after. Because the internet, while srsbidness, doesn't trump feelings.
The other day, someone thought that, in retaliation to in game wank, they could bring in all my personal LJ wank and attack my characters and all kinds of stuff. And while I adore her as a person, and I do, this isn't someone I want to play with. It's not someone that I care to follow any more. Especially when I respected her friends and the things they said as well. I even respected the fact that they didn't agree with the temporary plotfix in game, even if I didn't like the fact that they came back and were nasty.
My contact information is not hidden. I'm findable, constantly. And yet, the things I've found that have been said about me and MY friends recently aren't just hurtful, they're downright nasty for the sake of being nasty. Which, granted, is something I've been in the past. Not since I've been on IJ. Not since I said, "I'm not going to be THAT WAY anymore." And not one person came to me and said, "This is how I'm feeling" or "This is what I think of you/your character/your mom/your dog". Nothing. Just back-handed, behind the scenes nastiness.
And hey, if that's the way ya'll wanna roll? Gravy. I've done the, "I'm a badass bitch and I'ma gonna fuck you up" bit. In fact? I owned that in TM/RotM and a host of other comms on LJ. But this grownup is tired and ready to move on.
I'm not attaching the wank-caboose to this engine. If ya can't fix it? Ya'll gots to go.
Once I'd been
1) I wasn't going to get involved in wank
2) I wasn't going to 'beg' for it anymore
I'd play with people who clearly wanted to play with me and avoid those that didn't. There are forty gazillion games on IJ and if one didn't want me, well, the other 39,999,999,999,999--- still presented an opportunity. I didn't have to put up with people who talked shit about me, my friends, whatever. There are rules on my user info for a reason.
Way back when, I had a fight with someone. She let someone say something nasty about me and she didn't defend me when I wasn't there to defend myself. This, to me, was just as bad as saying those things herself. Because if you don't agree with what someone is saying about your friends, you need to stand up for them. She and I had this MASSIVE falling out and a week later, talked it out and moved on. Three and a half years later, she and I are amazing friends.
Two days ago, another friend said something to me: You're one of the few people I can argue with who sticks around after. That's rare online, I've found.
She's right. I've fought with a great many people. I've also remained friends with a good many of them after. Because the internet, while srsbidness, doesn't trump feelings.
The other day, someone thought that, in retaliation to in game wank, they could bring in all my personal LJ wank and attack my characters and all kinds of stuff. And while I adore her as a person, and I do, this isn't someone I want to play with. It's not someone that I care to follow any more. Especially when I respected her friends and the things they said as well. I even respected the fact that they didn't agree with the temporary plotfix in game, even if I didn't like the fact that they came back and were nasty.
My contact information is not hidden. I'm findable, constantly. And yet, the things I've found that have been said about me and MY friends recently aren't just hurtful, they're downright nasty for the sake of being nasty. Which, granted, is something I've been in the past. Not since I've been on IJ. Not since I said, "I'm not going to be THAT WAY anymore." And not one person came to me and said, "This is how I'm feeling" or "This is what I think of you/your character/your mom/your dog". Nothing. Just back-handed, behind the scenes nastiness.
And hey, if that's the way ya'll wanna roll? Gravy. I've done the, "I'm a badass bitch and I'ma gonna fuck you up" bit. In fact? I owned that in TM/RotM and a host of other comms on LJ. But this grownup is tired and ready to move on.
I'm not attaching the wank-caboose to this engine. If ya can't fix it? Ya'll gots to go.
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You have issues with something or someone? You talk it out. You tell them about it. COMPROMISE.
But to attack someone simply because their opinion is the one that particularly agree with? Not cool.
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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Look, I'm so over what went down last night. I had an opinion, I stated it, I was promptly crucified for it. If you want to make wanky icons of a post where Sam and I poked a bit of fun at Antigone and her Sam? Hey, that's cool too. I'm sure you would never say anything about anybody else's characters and that makes you a better person than me.
I don't have any beef with you personally and I get a little nervous when I see shit about abuse team because hey, wasn't that what was done to you on LJ before you got kicked out for whatever it was you did? I'd at least hope that some sense of karma would keep you from trying to do the same to another person. Although, I don't see how you would have a leg to stand on as me and my friends haven't hacked any journals or anything.
This is me extending the olive branch because I really don't want you and your entourage spending your time trying to stick it to me and my friends. I think we've all seen enough bullshit for one week. At least, I have. I haven't been involved in a flame war like that since high school. What fun!
I think it's time we went our separate ways, which is great because we don't really even owe each other anything. :)
Good luck!
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What happened last night (at UTR) was sad. Yeah, they could have given some warning/stated their case a little better. Mandy was working from her cellphone and couldn't edit or respond as quickly as she wanted. And hey! I agreed with the thought that it was a little on the sudden side. It wasn't until ya'll came back and commented again that I thought it was out of hand.
The 'wanky' icon that you're talking about? It wasn't that you guys poked a bit of fun at my girl. You called her LASSIE and apparently had been for a while. I'd been told the other day that you guys thought Anne ruined the SPN fandom at UTR and yet everyone was still either 1) on my friends list or 2) friends in game. If there was a problem with me and mine, no one had thought to mention it to me at any point before that. And if I have to talk about someone's characters? I don't do it where they can see it and I'm not usually friends with them.
Regarding my post about the abuse team: that came from ANOTHER post that is now private, where Fawn and Tara had at me for screencapping a post where she had at me for making said icon and how it was why she'd defriended me. It came about ten minutes after THIS post and you're right. I don't DO the 'report to Abuse team' shit. But she said she was going to report ME to Abuse for doing so. It started another three hour long flame war and I ended up in bed at 3:30am.
I have an entourage and you have friends? For the record, no one's going to try and 'stick it' to anyone else. No one's making nasty posts naming names. No one's even trashing people's characters. It's pointless. I'd also like to add that that flame war in UTR? I purposely stayed out of it because people I'd considered FRIENDS were involved. On both sides. It wasn't until I found out that those friends held ME in so little regard that my feelings shifted.
I'm sure that you guys will have amazing fun elsewhere. The amount of talent between you is astounding. :) Good luck to you as well.
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And thank you. ♥